What happens when the preacher struggles with their own faith? In this interview with Randy Harris, Mike Cope speaks of finding ways to minister to others from an authentic place even when your heart is broken. He shares, in a frank and honest way, experiences from his personal journey of faith that have offered both challenge and reassurance. Mike Cope is a long-time preacher who also serves as director of ministry outreach at Pepperdine University.

This video is part of the Siburt Institute for Church Ministry’s Contemporary Christian Conversations series, which features interviews about important issues in the context of personal stories. Find the rest of the series here:

• Black Rage, featuring Dr. Steven Moore and Randy Harris

• Clean and Unclean, featuring Dr. Richard Beck and Randy Harris

• The Crossroads of Art and Faith, featuring Dan McGregor and Randy Harris